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		<title>By: Kristy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former restaurant owner, I am blown away at the attitude of George and others who express such strong feelings by using words like &quot;illegal&quot;, &quot;theft&quot;, etc.  Why would an employer provide (at the restaurant&#039;s expense) all these support staff employees for the purpose of providing help to the server, then allow the server to walk away with all the tips?  This would result in a HUGE wage disparity between the  service personnel, with the servers making tremendously more than those who helped make the service exceptional.  

George seems to think that a business should provide a &quot;free&quot; space for a server to come in, do his/her thing and walk away, with no responsibility to those who contributed to his success.  Herein lies the justification for the employer to implement policies regarding the fair sharing of the tips.  As long as the laws are followed, that is the right of the employer.  I have to think that when a customer walks into a restaurant, he/she is smart enough to realize that there are laws, then policies that are being implemented when it comes to the customer&#039;s money, both the charges and the tips.

If George were to ever step on the other side, into ownership, his eyes would be opened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former restaurant owner, I am blown away at the attitude of George and others who express such strong feelings by using words like &#8220;illegal&#8221;, &#8220;theft&#8221;, etc.  Why would an employer provide (at the restaurant&#8217;s expense) all these support staff employees for the purpose of providing help to the server, then allow the server to walk away with all the tips?  This would result in a HUGE wage disparity between the  service personnel, with the servers making tremendously more than those who helped make the service exceptional.  </p>
<p>George seems to think that a business should provide a &#8220;free&#8221; space for a server to come in, do his/her thing and walk away, with no responsibility to those who contributed to his success.  Herein lies the justification for the employer to implement policies regarding the fair sharing of the tips.  As long as the laws are followed, that is the right of the employer.  I have to think that when a customer walks into a restaurant, he/she is smart enough to realize that there are laws, then policies that are being implemented when it comes to the customer&#8217;s money, both the charges and the tips.</p>
<p>If George were to ever step on the other side, into ownership, his eyes would be opened.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: How Much Should I Tip? How About Nothing At All &#124; ChristWire</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 02:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: How Much Should I Tip? How About Nothing At All &#124; ChristWire</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 02:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pissedoff</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 23:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at the restaurant i work at... i have to split my tips with the owner (who is also the chef) 70/30. thing is... sometimes his wife waitresses with me... and then he decides it should be split 33/33/33... so they take home 66% of the tips. does this seem fair to you guys?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at the restaurant i work at&#8230; i have to split my tips with the owner (who is also the chef) 70/30. thing is&#8230; sometimes his wife waitresses with me&#8230; and then he decides it should be split 33/33/33&#8230; so they take home 66% of the tips. does this seem fair to you guys?</p>
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		<title>By: レストランのチップ &#187; 経済学101</title>
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		<title>By: mj</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 11:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Monica.
Yes, it is kind of weird.. I guess it depends on what the other staff get paid. There are still a few places out there like yours, but they are no longer the norm. In most places I have worked, it was standard for servers to at least tip their bartender, busser and hostess, only in the last ten years sis a kitchen tip get added into the mix. Only in the last five has it become more and more regular for the owners to start dipping into a servers tips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Monica.<br />
Yes, it is kind of weird.. I guess it depends on what the other staff get paid. There are still a few places out there like yours, but they are no longer the norm. In most places I have worked, it was standard for servers to at least tip their bartender, busser and hostess, only in the last ten years sis a kitchen tip get added into the mix. Only in the last five has it become more and more regular for the owners to start dipping into a servers tips.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 05:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, is it weird that I work at a place that doesn&#039;t do ANY Of this? No pooling, no support staff, nothing. A server&#039;s tips are their own. Then again there are no bussers (We bus our own tables) but the kitchen doesn&#039;t see any of our tips. Neither does the host/hostess. They all get paid more than we do an hour, they just don&#039;t get tips. Is this weird?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, is it weird that I work at a place that doesn&#8217;t do ANY Of this? No pooling, no support staff, nothing. A server&#8217;s tips are their own. Then again there are no bussers (We bus our own tables) but the kitchen doesn&#8217;t see any of our tips. Neither does the host/hostess. They all get paid more than we do an hour, they just don&#8217;t get tips. Is this weird?</p>
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		<title>By: mj</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to say as well, that the disagreement between George and Lauren, is sorta funny, they seem to be arguing the same point, in different ways, and not really seeing what the other is actually saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to say as well, that the disagreement between George and Lauren, is sorta funny, they seem to be arguing the same point, in different ways, and not really seeing what the other is actually saying.</p>
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		<title>By: mj</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with George to some extent. The law, as everyone keeps throwing out, does not permit an employer, to pay you less than minimum wage. I think we can all agree on that point.
If an employer then takes a share of your tips, which are the only thing that aloows him/her to pay servers less than standard minimum wage, they are now paying you less than minimum wage. The LAW, does not allow that. Distribution to others that are also working for minimum wage, is allowed, but it is up to the server to pay those people, the owners can only make a suggestion to how much that payout should be, it is not permitted, for an owner, to have a say in your money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with George to some extent. The law, as everyone keeps throwing out, does not permit an employer, to pay you less than minimum wage. I think we can all agree on that point.<br />
If an employer then takes a share of your tips, which are the only thing that aloows him/her to pay servers less than standard minimum wage, they are now paying you less than minimum wage. The LAW, does not allow that. Distribution to others that are also working for minimum wage, is allowed, but it is up to the server to pay those people, the owners can only make a suggestion to how much that payout should be, it is not permitted, for an owner, to have a say in your money.</p>
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		<title>By: teleburst</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 04:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George, I still you&#039;ll still riding that old dead pony. Just for the record for the millionth time, the law permits such distribution - therefore, it can&#039;t be illegal. 

So who&#039;s the insane one - the one who understands something that&#039;s explained to them time and time again, or the one who refuses to accept reality?

Just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, I still you&#8217;ll still riding that old dead pony. Just for the record for the millionth time, the law permits such distribution &#8211; therefore, it can&#8217;t be illegal. </p>
<p>So who&#8217;s the insane one &#8211; the one who understands something that&#8217;s explained to them time and time again, or the one who refuses to accept reality?</p>
<p>Just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These tip out percentages restaurants are implementing are illegal. 

Imagine if I were to walk into a restaurant and distribute the money in the cash register in the following manner. 

1% to the hostess 
5% to the bartender 
13.4% to the busboys 
26.8% to the captain 
26.9% to the back waiter 
26.9% to the restaurant owner (Chris&#039;s employer) 

What&#039;s wrong with this picture? 

Are you all to stupid to see how illegal this is? 

Restaurants have no more of a right to distribute it&#039;s customer&#039;s tips as a customer, like myself, would have to walk into their restauarant and distribute the money in their cash register. 

If I were to walk into a restaurant and begin distributing the money in their cash register, the restaurant would call the police, I would be arrested, and a judge would sentence me to jail. It would be obvious to everyone that I was stealing their property.

But when a restaurant does the exact same thing, takes my private property and begins dividing it up, people act as if it&#039;s perfectly legal. Is this world insane?  

How can anyone not see that such business practices are illegal? 

Are they putting something in your water to make you stupid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These tip out percentages restaurants are implementing are illegal. </p>
<p>Imagine if I were to walk into a restaurant and distribute the money in the cash register in the following manner. </p>
<p>1% to the hostess<br />
5% to the bartender<br />
13.4% to the busboys<br />
26.8% to the captain<br />
26.9% to the back waiter<br />
26.9% to the restaurant owner (Chris&#8217;s employer) </p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with this picture? </p>
<p>Are you all to stupid to see how illegal this is? </p>
<p>Restaurants have no more of a right to distribute it&#8217;s customer&#8217;s tips as a customer, like myself, would have to walk into their restauarant and distribute the money in their cash register. </p>
<p>If I were to walk into a restaurant and begin distributing the money in their cash register, the restaurant would call the police, I would be arrested, and a judge would sentence me to jail. It would be obvious to everyone that I was stealing their property.</p>
<p>But when a restaurant does the exact same thing, takes my private property and begins dividing it up, people act as if it&#8217;s perfectly legal. Is this world insane?  </p>
<p>How can anyone not see that such business practices are illegal? </p>
<p>Are they putting something in your water to make you stupid?</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren stated, 

As a former server myself, I think George is WAY out of line. Once money exchanges hands, it is no longer “your money”. 

I am not suggesting that the person I give a tip doesn&#039;t have a right to share my tip with whom-ever they want. What I am stating is that I am not giving my tip to any business owner. Do you understand what I am saying?

While you can do what-ever you want with a tip I give you, it is stealing for someone other than you, namely your employer, to take my tip and share it with whom-ever your employer chooses. 

When employers adopt a policy of pooling or sharing tips, they are taking my tip away from the employee to whom I intended to tip without my permission. They are stealing my tip and treating it as if I gave them the tip. When a business adopts a policy concerning how my tip will be shared, they are stealing my tip. 

You see, I have a legal right to choose who my tip belongs to. It&#039;s my property. As my property, I am the only one with the authority to decide who it belongs to. 

Once I&#039;ve determined who it belongs to, that person, and that person alone, can do what they want with my tip. It becomes their property after, not before, I&#039;ve chosen to give them a tip. 

As a consumer who tips on a regular basis, I am hereby declaring that any employer who adopts policies concerning how my tip will be pooled or shared is doing so without my permission and subsequently is illegally stealing my property to utilize for his own purposes. I have not authorized any business to appropriate my tips for me. I will choose who my tip is intended for. 

Lauren, you are way out of line for asserting that I am out of line for attempting to protect my private property. 

How can I be out of line for simply attempting to protect my private property? 


It&#039;s my tip. Please explain why a business owner, rather than I, should decide who my tip beongs to? 


Don&#039;t you see how ridiculous it is for an employer to decide who is going to share in the customer&#039;s tip? It&#039;s not the employer&#039;s property. Customers have not authorized the employer to appropriate tips for them. On the other hand, an employee who is given a tip is authorized to pool or appropriate the tip in any manner he or she chooses.

It&#039;s like restaurant owners want to pretend that customers are authorizing the restaurant to appropriate their tips for them. Of course, if I were to pretend that the money in their cash register was mine to use however I choose, I would be locked up in jail. Why the double standard? 

Employers who mandate tip pooling should be locked up in jail. Is that straight forward enough? I say they are stealing my property. Who, other than myself, can accurately know whether or not a business is stealing my tip?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauren stated, </p>
<p>As a former server myself, I think George is WAY out of line. Once money exchanges hands, it is no longer “your money”. </p>
<p>I am not suggesting that the person I give a tip doesn&#8217;t have a right to share my tip with whom-ever they want. What I am stating is that I am not giving my tip to any business owner. Do you understand what I am saying?</p>
<p>While you can do what-ever you want with a tip I give you, it is stealing for someone other than you, namely your employer, to take my tip and share it with whom-ever your employer chooses. </p>
<p>When employers adopt a policy of pooling or sharing tips, they are taking my tip away from the employee to whom I intended to tip without my permission. They are stealing my tip and treating it as if I gave them the tip. When a business adopts a policy concerning how my tip will be shared, they are stealing my tip. </p>
<p>You see, I have a legal right to choose who my tip belongs to. It&#8217;s my property. As my property, I am the only one with the authority to decide who it belongs to. </p>
<p>Once I&#8217;ve determined who it belongs to, that person, and that person alone, can do what they want with my tip. It becomes their property after, not before, I&#8217;ve chosen to give them a tip. </p>
<p>As a consumer who tips on a regular basis, I am hereby declaring that any employer who adopts policies concerning how my tip will be pooled or shared is doing so without my permission and subsequently is illegally stealing my property to utilize for his own purposes. I have not authorized any business to appropriate my tips for me. I will choose who my tip is intended for. </p>
<p>Lauren, you are way out of line for asserting that I am out of line for attempting to protect my private property. </p>
<p>How can I be out of line for simply attempting to protect my private property? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s my tip. Please explain why a business owner, rather than I, should decide who my tip beongs to? </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you see how ridiculous it is for an employer to decide who is going to share in the customer&#8217;s tip? It&#8217;s not the employer&#8217;s property. Customers have not authorized the employer to appropriate tips for them. On the other hand, an employee who is given a tip is authorized to pool or appropriate the tip in any manner he or she chooses.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like restaurant owners want to pretend that customers are authorizing the restaurant to appropriate their tips for them. Of course, if I were to pretend that the money in their cash register was mine to use however I choose, I would be locked up in jail. Why the double standard? </p>
<p>Employers who mandate tip pooling should be locked up in jail. Is that straight forward enough? I say they are stealing my property. Who, other than myself, can accurately know whether or not a business is stealing my tip?</p>
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